tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1827293309574913027.post6303234218702062089..comments2023-03-30T00:52:50.594-07:00Comments on Sword and Circle: What's My Motivation?Maijahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/18264657619197571965noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1827293309574913027.post-15779837558545428292012-06-03T10:49:38.087-07:002012-06-03T10:49:38.087-07:00@ cp - I think that moment of choice is a subtlety...@ cp - I think that moment of choice is a subtlety that is absolutely worth exploring, we call it 'holding neutral'. However I will say that it's often a luxury as you need to have your body already to spring out AS you enter sometimes, especially if your margin of error is thin. I think it's situational, but of course as skills and sensitivity increase, so magically does time.<br />@ EHCG - Absolutely agree that there is reason behind the 'moment', as you say to make sure of the hit. And also agree with your options. <br />And thank you, to have the ideas of George Silver used as comparison is indeed a compliment. He is a fine example of a weapons master from history who lived to a good age, and I believe understood that there was a level of skill that could be trained above the mutual killings so often caused by dueling.Maijahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18264657619197571965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1827293309574913027.post-44127668407608321032012-06-01T23:34:51.469-07:002012-06-01T23:34:51.469-07:00Nice post. It is always good when one hears the wo...Nice post. It is always good when one hears the words of the past coming up through modern practioners, without any direct link. Flying in and flying out wining/finding time and place... All to read in the works of George Silver..<br /><br />regarding the holing ground thing. Foil is a teaching/learning construct. so in much the same way as things like "right of way" holing the lunge on the hit was IMO, to stop people being jabby, or hitting any old how.<br />regards what to do after the hit in duelling or actual fighting the older manuals are divided. however the most "sensible ones" advise moving off line or move forward or past, as you are then safer because you are inside and generally safe from the threat of their point. also many suggest controlling the weapon/weapon arm with your off hand as you go past... not sure you'd get away with that in a foil class though....The European Historical Combat Guildhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02425115205496881300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1827293309574913027.post-60827801760053378432012-06-01T08:21:16.384-07:002012-06-01T08:21:16.384-07:00related, from another discussion: "At any oth...related, from another discussion: "At any other range, retreating is generally a neutral or safe option- you're expanding the distance, so you get extra time to react, so you can usually create some space. but from the infighting range, taking a step back still leaves you in the range where hits can come faster than you can deal with them. Essentially, trying to try back out of close/very close range gives a free shot to your opponent, and trying to hit or move closer and past are much safer options, which is counter-intuitive to a lot of fighters." <br /><br />I think another aspect of it is to enable your ability to choose. If you were only training in a limited way, automatically recovering after a hit might be the best choice. but if you're going to explore the entire tactical space, it makes more sense to have that moment be a place where you make a choice. instead of "in or out", you look at the total situation and evaluate what the best choice for this particular situation. Any automatic reaction is a potential weakness, and for any place where there is time and choices to be made I think it makes sense to make that a moment of relaxation.considerphlebashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10181761769189564293noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1827293309574913027.post-12613124808336640202012-06-01T07:24:38.146-07:002012-06-01T07:24:38.146-07:00We do several drills in the PDR program where the ...We do several drills in the PDR program where the Good Guy is explicitly not allowed to move off-line. The rationale is, at least in part, that assaults sometimes (often?) occur in places where angling off is simply not an option.<br /><br />Obviously, dueling with blades is a slightly different context, but the same idea could apply, I think.Jakehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11379685641338041168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1827293309574913027.post-57850612121266025592012-06-01T06:38:54.483-07:002012-06-01T06:38:54.483-07:00Perhaps related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moto...Perhaps related: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motor_cognitionMaijahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18264657619197571965noreply@blogger.com